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Title: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on April 28, 2014, 11:45:35 PM
Just wondering if it seems like anyone else did not get notes at 8pm? i.e. I didn't get an 8:12pm email from Lending Club and my "order history" tab in LC looks like my 4:12pm emails. 

I looked on P2P-Picks and I see some that seem like I would have picked up. I may need to cross ref the numbers.

Yes, I was thinking there is a backend service that is processing the picks so the frontend user interface should not interfere.  BV: Auto Invest Enable=Yes. Linked Account Active=Yes. Active filter=Yes.

Via BV - "Last invest (if any) 28 Apr 2014" doesn't show time so you can't go by that.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on April 29, 2014, 05:42:14 AM
Just wondering if it seems like anyone else did not get notes at 8pm? i.e. I didn't get an 8:12pm email from Lending Club and my "order history" tab in LC looks like my 4:12pm emails. 

I looked on P2P-Picks and I see some that seem like I would have picked up. I may need to cross ref the numbers.

Yes, I was thinking there is a backend service that is processing the picks so the frontend user interface should not interfere.  BV: Auto Invest Enable=Yes. Linked Account Active=Yes. Active filter=Yes.

Via BV - "Last invest (if any) 28 Apr 2014" doesn't show time so you can't go by that.

As part of the new site release, it affected my communication with P2P-Picks. I noticed last night that we didn't get the feed from P2P-Picks for that last batch of the day. I was at fault for it. I'm hoping I fixed that error last night and that it should work today on the first load. If it doesn't, I'll continue to figure out why and to fix it.

Sorry for the kinks.

Nathan
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on April 29, 2014, 09:00:26 AM
As part of the new site release, it affected my communication with P2P-Picks. I noticed last night that we didn't get the feed from P2P-Picks for that last batch of the day. I was at fault for it. I'm hoping I fixed that error last night and that it should work today on the first load. If it doesn't, I'll continue to figure out why and to fix it.
Sorry for the kinks. Nathan
Thanks for the quick follow up man!  I felt a little weird reporting this because I would have thought the "user interface" would not have affected the P2P-Picks backend processing. I reported it here (vs email) so other users/readers would know perhaps save an email from them to you.  Hoping to save you time...that we all value.  We appreciate the transparency and for your being on this forum.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on April 29, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
As part of the new site release, it affected my communication with P2P-Picks. I noticed last night that we didn't get the feed from P2P-Picks for that last batch of the day. I was at fault for it. I'm hoping I fixed that error last night and that it should work today on the first load. If it doesn't, I'll continue to figure out why and to fix it.
Sorry for the kinks. Nathan
Thanks for the quick follow up man!  I felt a little weird reporting this because I would have thought the "user interface" would not have affected the P2P-Picks backend processing. I reported it here (vs email) so other users/readers would know perhaps save an email from them to you.  Hoping to save you time...that we all value.  We appreciate the transparency and for your being on this forum.

I'm happy to do my part! The "user interface" didn't have any effect on the P2P-Picks feed... well... kinda. The user interface as you know it is a website. You visit www.BlueVestment.com and you see the website you can interact with. However, there is much more to the 'web application' than just what you see. Along with the deployment a secured API is exposed for communication between P2P-Picks and BlueVestment. P2P-Picks investing didn't work last night because when I deployed the new site, I misconfigured that secured endpoint with P2P-Picks which in turn prevented them from pushing new picks to BV. That appears to be fixed now.

Nathan
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on April 29, 2014, 09:21:05 AM
<snip>  P2P-Picks investing didn't work last night because when I deployed the new site, I misconfigured that secured endpoint with P2P-Picks which in turn prevented them from pushing new picks to BV. That appears to be fixed now.
It did not pick any notes for me at the 8am drop. When I went to P2P-Picks directly at 8:10a I saw one that I should have picked up (I think). There may have been more at 8:03-04 when the LC drop happened. 

Perhaps others can report and maybe there was really nothing for me to pick up this morning.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on April 29, 2014, 10:50:08 AM
<snip>  P2P-Picks investing didn't work last night because when I deployed the new site, I misconfigured that secured endpoint with P2P-Picks which in turn prevented them from pushing new picks to BV. That appears to be fixed now.
It did not pick any notes for me at the 8am drop. When I went to P2P-Picks directly at 8:10a I saw one that I should have picked up (I think). There may have been more at 8:03-04 when the LC drop happened. 

Perhaps others can report and maybe there was really nothing for me to pick up this morning.

This morning's (0600 PST) batch from P2P-Picks was dumped at roughly 0605 PST and contained 78 picks. I'm not immediately sure why you didn't have any investments out of it. Perhaps there weren't any matches for your filters? If this problem persists, we can drill down further.

Nathan
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on April 29, 2014, 01:09:45 PM
<snip>  P2P-Picks investing didn't work last night because when I deployed the new site, I misconfigured that secured endpoint with P2P-Picks which in turn prevented them from pushing new picks to BV. That appears to be fixed now.
It did not pick any notes for me at the 8am drop. When I went to P2P-Picks directly at 8:10a I saw one that I should have picked up (I think). There may have been more at 8:03-04 when the LC drop happened.  Perhaps others can report and maybe there was really nothing for me to pick up this morning.
This morning's (0600 PST) batch from P2P-Picks was dumped at roughly 0605 PST and contained 78 picks. I'm not immediately sure why you didn't have any investments out of it. Perhaps there weren't any matches for your filters? If this problem persists, we can drill down further. Nathan
FYI, it looked like I picked up a couple from the 10a (12p my time) drop. I checked out P2P-Picks at that time and saw the two that made sense I would pick up.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on April 29, 2014, 02:03:17 PM
<snip>  P2P-Picks investing didn't work last night because when I deployed the new site, I misconfigured that secured endpoint with P2P-Picks which in turn prevented them from pushing new picks to BV. That appears to be fixed now.
It did not pick any notes for me at the 8am drop. When I went to P2P-Picks directly at 8:10a I saw one that I should have picked up (I think). There may have been more at 8:03-04 when the LC drop happened.  Perhaps others can report and maybe there was really nothing for me to pick up this morning.
This morning's (0600 PST) batch from P2P-Picks was dumped at roughly 0605 PST and contained 78 picks. I'm not immediately sure why you didn't have any investments out of it. Perhaps there weren't any matches for your filters? If this problem persists, we can drill down further. Nathan
FYI, it looked like I picked up a couple from the 10a (12p my time) drop. I checked out P2P-Picks at that time and saw the two that made sense I would pick up.

I had to do a small reset. Sorry for the troubles. Hopefully everything is back on track.

Nathan
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on April 29, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
I had to do a small reset. Sorry for the troubles. Hopefully everything is back on track. Nathan
No worries. Thanks for everything! It is really great seeing the filter name in in the 24hr, 30day, etc dialog box.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on May 01, 2014, 06:11:45 PM
Central time: I had note funded at 8am and 12pm but nothing at 4pm.  I was in www.p2p-picks at 4pm and saw some new ones that looked like they would be funded.  I'll report back at 8pm.
Title: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 01, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
Central time: I had note funded at 8am and 12pm but nothing at 4pm.  I was in www.p2p-picks at 4pm and saw some new ones that looked like they would be funded.  I'll report back at 8pm.

Lending Club made a change to their format that they dump currently owned notes so they BV system couldn't tell what was already owned and what was a valid investment. So it errored out gracefully. I'm fixing this now.

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Title: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on May 01, 2014, 09:07:29 PM
Central time: I had note funded at 8am and 12pm but nothing at 4pm.  I was in www.p2p-picks at 4pm and saw some new ones that looked like they would be funded.  I'll report back at 8pm.

Lending Club made a change to their format that they dump currently owned notes so they BV system couldn't tell what was already owned and what was a valid investment. So it errored out gracefully. I'm fixing this now.
Erroring out gracefully is exactly what I want you to do!  Better to not purchase anything than the opposite <grin>. I noticed 8pm's didn't purchase either.  No big deal, man! There will be more where those came from.  Thanks for the efforts. Enjoy your time away. I heard you are at a conference (another thread I think).
Title: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 01, 2014, 09:16:35 PM
Central time: I had note funded at 8am and 12pm but nothing at 4pm.  I was in www.p2p-picks at 4pm and saw some new ones that looked like they would be funded.  I'll report back at 8pm.

Lending Club made a change to their format that they dump currently owned notes so they BV system couldn't tell what was already owned and what was a valid investment. So it errored out gracefully. I'm fixing this now.
Erroring out gracefully is exactly what I want you to do!  Better to not purchase anything than the opposite <grin>. I noticed 8pm's didn't purchase either.  No big deal, man! There will be more where those came from.  Thanks for the efforts. Enjoy your time away. I heard you are at a conference (another thread I think).

The problem has been fixed. There was a change to the headers of the csv file that contains your 'already owned notes'. Some of the items got renamed.

I don't know what to tell you about the last batch today. It appears to have kicked off correctly on my side and proceeded to invest for many users. Maybe there were no matches for you. If the problem persists, let's debug the issue so we can get everything going again.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: rawraw on May 01, 2014, 09:23:35 PM
Hey!

I'm trying to find a new portfolio I created via sync, but it doesn't seem to be appearing. 
Title: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 01, 2014, 09:36:02 PM
Hey!

I'm trying to find a new portfolio I created via sync, but it doesn't seem to be appearing.

Try refreshing the page. I think this is a bug I have to fix.

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Title: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on May 01, 2014, 09:50:58 PM
I don't know what to tell you about the last batch today. It appears to have kicked off correctly on my side and proceeded to invest for many users. Maybe there were no matches for you. If the problem persists, let's debug the issue so we can get everything going again.
I just checked my emails from LC and it appears 1 did get purchased so I must have overlooked something manually at 8pm. THANKS for being so responsive to issues even if they are out of your control (ie. changes made by LC, etc)!
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on May 02, 2014, 09:08:39 AM
FYI, appears to be working as expect at the 8am drop.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 02, 2014, 09:09:49 AM
FYI, appears to be working as expect at the 8am drop.

Great to hear
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on May 03, 2014, 09:19:09 AM
Another little gotcha going on with: P2P-Picks <-> BV <-> LC ?

I was checking P2P-Picks this morning before I went out for the day and saw notes I should have picked up.  Nothing happened in BV tho (except notes dropping out of the 24hr dashboard display).  I could be wrong about what I should pick up but with P2P-Picks filters it is pretty straight forward and when it shows new notes with Funded (%) = 0 those look like they should be picked up (assuming top x % matches and grade if applicable).

Perhaps an information msg can show up in the interface when it gracefully exits some process because something went wrong? (other day CSV format change, etc).
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 03, 2014, 09:20:41 AM
Another little gotcha going on with: P2P-Picks <-> BV <-> LC ?

I was checking P2P-Picks this morning before I went out for the day and saw notes I should have picked up.  Nothing happened in BV tho (except notes dropping out of the 24hr dashboard display).  I could be wrong about what I should pick up but with P2P-Picks filters it is pretty straight forward and when it shows new notes with Funded (%) = 0 those look like they should be picked up (assuming top x % matches and grade if applicable).

Perhaps an information msg can show up in the interface when it gracefully exits some process because something went wrong? (other day CSV format change, etc).

I'll check to see if there was an issue.

Nathan
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on May 03, 2014, 09:26:31 AM
I see 1 just popped up in the 24hr dashboard a minute ago so 8:20ish.  Oddly there still looks like there are 2 others in the P2P-Picks display right now that should be picked up. 0 % funded.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: rawraw on May 03, 2014, 10:06:20 AM
I see 1 just popped up in the 24hr dashboard a minute ago so 8:20ish.  Oddly there still looks like there are 2 others in the P2P-Picks display right now that should be picked up. 0 % funded.
I would say that I don't know how BV works, but we aren't the only person on the platform like a personal API.  As a result, I imagine we don't get every note available due to this.  Perhaps its an incorrect assumption of mine, but that's how I've always viewed it.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 03, 2014, 10:13:31 AM
I see 1 just popped up in the 24hr dashboard a minute ago so 8:20ish.  Oddly there still looks like there are 2 others in the P2P-Picks display right now that should be picked up. 0 % funded.
I would say that I don't know how BV works, but we aren't the only person on the platform like a personal API.  As a result, I imagine we don't get every note available due to this.  Perhaps its an incorrect assumption of mine, but that's how I've always viewed it.

Correct. There are other services out there. But the bulk of the users are the you's and me's of the community that just want to do something for themselves. I can't guarantee that BV is the fastest (the metrics aren't available to prove or indicate anything), but I pride myself on building a fast, lean, and agile system. This is the sort of thing I do in my day job and the skillset I've built my career around. At this point, I firmly believe that the only real way for BV to get faster is to throw money at the problem. Bigger servers with oodles (128gb) of memory and super cutting edge xeon processors. Putting the servers in the next physical rack over from the LC servers, etc. While we may not be the fastest, I'd be very surprised if there were many faster. With that being said, the BV technology is licensed by other individuals/institutions who DO indeed have the resources to provide this level of infrastructure.

Nathan
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: core on May 03, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
This is the sort of thing I do in my day job and the skillset I've built my career around.

And what kind of day job might that be?  Do you develop software which lies, cheats, and steals in order to trounce the next guy?  If not...  :-\

Title: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 03, 2014, 10:32:12 AM
This is the sort of thing I do in my day job and the skillset I've built my career around.

And what kind of day job might that be?  Do you develop software which lies, cheats, and steals in order to trounce the next guy?  If not...  :-\

You can feel free to read my bio on the BlueVestment site or look me up on linked in.

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Title: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: core on May 03, 2014, 10:59:24 AM
You can feel free to read my bio on the BlueVestment site

I tried that but the site is unusable with the login form covering up the right half of the upper navbar.  (At least I'm assuming that's where an About link would be.)  I also tried blueairsolutions.com but that was a very professional parked-at-GoDaddy page.  I have no doubt that the BV site works fine once you log in, since that blasted login deal would go away.

Not everyone has a 1600px+ wide monitor.  I guess I'm behind the times.  But I don't need 128gigs of ram and xenon processors and the other silliness mentioned to dish out spankings.  Neither does anyone else, once they concentrate on novel methods instead of trying to do something slow as fast as possible.
Title: Re: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 03, 2014, 11:03:36 AM
You can feel free to read my bio on the BlueVestment site

I tried that but the site is unusable with the login form covering up the right half of the upper navbar.  (At least I'm assuming that's where an About link would be.)  I also tried blueairsolutions.com but that was a very professional parked-at-GoDaddy page.  I have no doubt that the BV site works fine once you log in, since that blasted login deal would go away.

Not everyone has a 1600px+ wide monitor.  I guess I'm behind the times.  But I don't need 128gigs of ram and xenon processors and the other silliness mentioned to dish out spankings.  Neither does anyone else, once they concentrate on novel methods instead of trying to do something slow as fast as possible.

That's good feedback about the login bar. It was built for a resolution of 1366x768 but I agree it should be relocated.

As for the rest of your comment I'm glad to hear that you are an expert on systems design of HFT systems which focus on scalability. Maybe one of these days I'll be working for you.
Title: Re: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: core on May 03, 2014, 11:25:04 AM
As for the rest of your comment I'm glad to hear that you are an expert on systems design of HFT systems which focus on scalability.

As you well know I didn't claim anything of the sort.  If that's what you do you could have said that in a straightforward manner.  The most scalable things are often not the fastest.  Also since you mentioned HFT... stock exchanges have strict rules.  Lending Club does NOT, at present.  It's still pretty much the wild west here.  If you play LC like it's legit like the NASDAQ then you're going to lose, at least at present.  If you don't live each week expecting a call from someone telling you to knock off whatever it is you're doing, then you aren't trying hard enough. 

Sure, years down the road everyone will have to play by the same rules, be on equal footing, and then it may be down to the processors and physical location.  That day ain't even close though.
Title: Re: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 03, 2014, 12:12:16 PM
As for the rest of your comment I'm glad to hear that you are an expert on systems design of HFT systems which focus on scalability.

As you well know I didn't claim anything of the sort.  If that's what you do you could have said that in a straightforward manner.  The most scalable things are often not the fastest.  Also since you mentioned HFT... stock exchanges have strict rules.  Lending Club does NOT, at present.  It's still pretty much the wild west here.  If you play LC like it's legit like the NASDAQ then you're going to lose, at least at present.  If you don't live each week expecting a call from someone telling you to knock off whatever it is you're doing, then you aren't trying hard enough. 

Sure, years down the road everyone will have to play by the same rules, be on equal footing, and then it may be down to the processors and physical location.  That day ain't even close though.

I hear where you are coming from on this and you are right, this isn't a traditional securities exchange. However I disagree with you on your comment about expecting a phone call from people telling you to 'knock it off' (at least as a measure of success). While I have been at the receiving end of this phone call before, there is a balance to it. You won't get very far in your life/career/interests without trust and respect. Being 'right' is important. Extremely so even. Unfortunately, it's just one factor that leads to success. Your views on things remind me of Ray Dalio of Bridgewater (http://www.bwater.com/home/culture--principles.aspx). The focus of always being right and performance over all things leads to a really crappy culture. It's a sure fire way to create an environment of resentment and apprehension. On top of this, it's a guarantee that you won't be fostering good will with people who you need it with. You'd be surprised when you need a favor and who might be out there who can help you. Building trust and respect is paramount to success in my opinion.
Title: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: rawraw on May 03, 2014, 03:35:03 PM
You can feel free to read my bio on the BlueVestment site

I tried that but the site is unusable with the login form covering up the right half of the upper navbar.  (At least I'm assuming that's where an About link would be.)  I also tried blueairsolutions.com but that was a very professional parked-at-GoDaddy page.  I have no doubt that the BV site works fine once you log in, since that blasted login deal would go away.

Not everyone has a 1600px+ wide monitor.  I guess I'm behind the times.  But I don't need 128gigs of ram and xenon processors and the other silliness mentioned to dish out spankings.  Neither does anyone else, once they concentrate on novel methods instead of trying to do something slow as fast as possible.
Nathan (last I checked) actually works at one of my favorite investment management firms.  His bio looked very impressive to me (a non-super techy).  And the firm I imagine is competitive given its stature.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on May 03, 2014, 07:20:20 PM
I see 1 just popped up in the 24hr dashboard a minute ago so 8:20ish.  Oddly there still looks like there are 2 others in the P2P-Picks display right now that should be picked up. 0 % funded.
I would say that I don't know how BV works, but we aren't the only person on the platform like a personal API.  As a result, I imagine we don't get every note available due to this.  Perhaps its an incorrect assumption of mine, but that's how I've always viewed it.
So if I am on P2P-Picks in the moments it throws up the new picks and there are several on there that match my very basic criteria (and are still 0% funded) and they are still there a few minutes later, I would certainly have expected BV to identify them as matching my filters and make the LC purchases. I've seen it do a many times.  When it doesn't happen and I've reported it there has seem to be some problem (new interface, LC changing CSV format, etc).  That is why I am reporting it because there maybe something basic going wrong. 

It appears there is some resiliency checks in place to exit gracefully when something goes wrong.  There is no feedback to the users about this tho.  Example LC changing CSV header names (I think).  Therefore any BV user would have no idea why picks were not happening.  Again with P2P-Picks the filters are usually very straightforward to eyeball the P2P-Picks site directly.  This by comparison to the advanced BV filters which are hard for end users to verify.

Don't be confused about my appreciation to Nathan for BV. He knows I appreciate his efforts and have had discussions offline.  I'm reporting things so other users know in case they see similar things.  Hope that helps explain my perspective/desire/motives.
Title: Re: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: BlueVestment on May 03, 2014, 07:49:12 PM
I see 1 just popped up in the 24hr dashboard a minute ago so 8:20ish.  Oddly there still looks like there are 2 others in the P2P-Picks display right now that should be picked up. 0 % funded.
I would say that I don't know how BV works, but we aren't the only person on the platform like a personal API.  As a result, I imagine we don't get every note available due to this.  Perhaps its an incorrect assumption of mine, but that's how I've always viewed it.
So if I am on P2P-Picks in the moments it throws up the new picks and there are several on there that match my very basic criteria (and are still 0% funded) and they are still there a few minutes later, I would certainly have expected BV to identify them as matching my filters and make the LC purchases. I've seen it do a many times.  When it doesn't happen and I've reported it there has seem to be some problem (new interface, LC changing CSV format, etc).  That is why I am reporting it because there maybe something basic going wrong. 

It appears there is some resiliency checks in place to exit gracefully when something goes wrong.  There is no feedback to the users about this tho.  Example LC changing CSV header names (I think).  Therefore any BV user would have no idea why picks were not happening.  Again with P2P-Picks the filters are usually very straightforward to eyeball the P2P-Picks site directly.  This by comparison to the advanced BV filters which are hard for end users to verify.

Don't be confused about my appreciation to Nathan for BV. He knows I appreciate his efforts and have had discussions offline.  I'm reporting things so other users know in case they see similar things.  Hope that helps explain my perspective/desire/motives.

That's the beauty of this forum. It provides transparency in the business which is something I value dearly. This is YOUR money. You worked hard for it! I treat every dollar like it's in my own investment account. Everyone's feedback enables me to make a better BV.

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Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: lascott on May 04, 2014, 12:38:09 AM
By the end of the day there were multiple notes purchased at 4p and 8p so it appears to be chugging along nicely.  I was out and about so I don't know if that was what would be expected from the P2P-Picks list but multiple notes is a great sign.

As a brand new investor using these tools, I'm obviously watching at a detail that most old timers don't.  Very thrilled overall with BV and P2P-Picks since it automates all this!  Introducing a group of select interested friends as well.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: rawraw on May 04, 2014, 11:04:46 AM

Don't be confused about my appreciation to Nathan for BV. He knows I appreciate his efforts and have had discussions offline.  I'm reporting things so other users know in case they see similar things.  Hope that helps explain my perspective/desire/motives.
Oh okay, I just wanted to post that because this forum (in the past, at least) has had a lot of whiners.  And they always threw fits over stuff. Just wanted to make sure this thread didn't turn into that -- I'm glad to see more level headed posters around as of late.

And I'm sure your background (according to your little profile snipit under your name) will probably be helpful in spotting things for people like Nathan.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: core on May 05, 2014, 12:44:55 AM
[Edited out, apparently some are sensitive]
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: Peter on May 05, 2014, 01:36:35 AM
Core, you need to tone it down here. We can disagree without using profanity or being mean. I don't appreciate it and I know others don't as well.

And yes, I consider d***s and s**t profanity.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: core on May 05, 2014, 02:54:53 AM
And yes, I consider d***s and s**t profanity.

Fair enough.  You are quite right about the langu*ge.  I apologize.  I suppose the placeholders are the same words.
Title: Re: New web interface affect 29Apr2014 8pm purchases
Post by: Peter on May 05, 2014, 08:31:37 AM
Thanks Core, I appreciate your response.