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Title: Google Finance Redesign Sucks
Post by: nonattender on March 19, 2018, 04:19:00 PM
First they fuck up "News", by "helpfully" limiting it to a picture and a story or two - now they fuck up "Finance", removing all volume info.

At many points during most days, I will interrupt my reading (or be interrupted by it), to go and take a quick eyeball at particular issues.

Does anyone have a workaround (other than migrating my queries over to Yahoo, which I am now doing) for the "helpful" new "Google Finance" redesign - wherein charts no longer contain or show any volume information (what idiot decided to leave that out)?  Once again, I am not a fan.

This sort of thing is becoming a pattern...

Title: Re: Google Finance Redesign Sucks
Post by: Fred93 on March 19, 2018, 05:04:05 PM
The new version is horrible.  I've been very frustrated by this change.

They really dumbed it down.  This is happening to many web sites, as they compete for the smartphone user, who has a tiny screen, so can't see much.

I used to use yahoo finance, until yahoo ruined that site.  Now it takes forever to fire up, because videos load and start playing, and they download the whole database of stock symbols when the page fires up so they can guide you as you type.  (Google does this thru the network!) 

So I've been using google finance every day for the past few months, and now suddenly it is worthless.  Not only the problems you cite, but also they've ruined the charts.  They draw a curve no matter what the volume is.  If you're looking at a thinly traded stock, you want to see those disjoint lines, so you can see that it is thinly traded.  Now they just draw a curve, whether it means anything or not.  No option for OHLC bar chart. 
Title: Re: Google Finance Redesign Sucks
Post by: nonattender on March 19, 2018, 08:36:22 PM
They really dumbed it down.  This is happening to many web sites, as they compete for the smartphone user, who has a tiny screen, so can't see much.

So true...  (Those tiny screens limit their field of view, in a variety of senses - there must be a better way - this is becoming pernicious.)

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So I've been using google finance every day for the past few months, and now suddenly it is worthless.  Not only the problems you cite, but also they've ruined the charts.  They draw a curve no matter what the volume is.  If you're looking at a thinly traded stock, you want to see those disjoint lines, so you can see that it is thinly traded.  Now they just draw a curve, whether it means anything or not.  No option for OHLC bar chart.

We must swim in similar waters - this is exactly the use case that pissed me off the most.  Have my eye on a thinly-traded OTC stock which needs more roundlot holders in order to get a NASDAQ listing (I check it at close of business each day) and Google blinded me.

Volume is, naturally, important to read any move in price - to gauge relative strength and suss out cause (PR, event, rotation, algos) - regardless of the size of the issue one's looking at...  (If I were to wonder how "bad" Google's ~3% drop was, today, I'd get no help consulting Google Finance!)
Title: Re: Google Finance Redesign Sucks
Post by: lascott on March 20, 2018, 11:59:08 AM
If you guys are really investing based on this info I would have guessed there would be sites that have inexpensive subscriptions. ie. way less than you are making trading.

In any event what about this site as an alternative?  I am not signed-in or signed-up in the image below.  I was just doing google searches and looking for volume related stuff.

NOTE that you can mouse over the lines below.

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/lc
(https://i.imgur.com/fjjbtlX.jpg)
Title: Re: Google Finance Redesign Sucks
Post by: nonattender on March 20, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
If you guys are really investing based on this info I would have guessed there would be sites that have inexpensive subscriptions. ie. way less than you are making trading.

I note your concern for us about the reliability of the data, but I am looking for balance between reliability, speed of access, and design which includes minimally relevant data (of which I find "volume" to absolutely be a necessarily relevant component).  I am, like you are, below, not inclined to either stay logged-in to anything or want to have to log-in to anything in order to look (I look many times a day, at a wide variety of things, as the need arises - only rarely, though - on the order of once every couple of weeks, or so - do I "trade").

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In any event what about this site as an alternative?  I am not signed-in or signed-up in the image below.  I was just doing google searches and looking for volume related stuff.

NOTE that you can mouse over the lines below.

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/lc

Thanks - again, too messy, and I'd have to manually configure the thing every time I opened it in order to set it up "properly" to see...

Yahoo Finance seems to work ok, on desktop/laptop, which is where I play, anyway, but I'd really prefer Google just fix what it broke.

Worst case, my VZ holdings get a traffic bump from other such Google Refugees, since they now own the Yahoo biz.  (Thanks, GOOG!)
Title: Re: Google Finance Redesign Sucks
Post by: jheizer on March 20, 2018, 02:51:53 PM
Yeah I miss the old version too.  You were able to see sooo much information at just a glance. 
Title: Re: Google Finance Redesign Sucks
Post by: Rob L on March 20, 2018, 04:26:28 PM
For stock charting purposes https://www.tradingview.com/ (https://www.tradingview.com/) is incredibly good.
The basic version is free (that's all I've ever needed) and free real time BATS quotes are included.
I do have an account and log in but Chrome (or LastPass?) remembers my credentials so that's one mouse click.
TradingView remembers annotations I add to individual stock charts, ie: text, trend lines, etc.
There is the occasional annoying "buy the upgraded version pop-up", but only when you change stock or scale.

(https://i.imgur.com/Acad3OG.png)