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brycemason

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Personal Portfolio Returns
« on: July 10, 2013, 01:36:36 AM »
Sharing my portfolio returns is something that I intended to do for quite some time, but I wanted to wait to season it for a good while. Now that I'm over the "hump" of 10 months on average, I thought it time to share.

Setup

The following statistics are based a portfolio that I created in January 2012 exclusively using the P2P-Picks Profit Maximizer. The following schedule describes my deposits:

8 Jan 2012 - $5,000
22 Mar 2012 - $5,000
1 Jun 2012 - $5,000
13 Jun 2012 - $20,000

This portfolio is not traded on the secondary market. It attempts to be the optimal buy and hold strategy from newly issued LendingClub loans. All payments have been reinvested into the portfolio.

Seasoning

The attached graphic summarizes the age of Issued, Current, and Late notes in my portfolio. The unweighted average age of the loans in the portfolio is 295 days. The average age weighted by remaining principal is 278 days. The months with the most notes are now well past months 6-10, which have the highest percentage of charge-offs.

Performance

Currently LendingClub reports my NAR at 12.0%.

An XIRR calculation on my current balance and the cash deposit dates is 11.1%. This, however, also measures my somewhat slow deployment of that $20,000 deposit, and is biased below the true performance of the strategy. Spreading out that $20,000 deposit into 4 x $5,000 deposits each a couple weeks apart bumps up the XIRR to 11.5%.

Looking toward the future, I expect the NAR to bounce between 11.7% and 12.3% as the portfolio continues to push over the 10-month hump and experiences relatively fewer charge offs (compared to the last 3 months). The XIRR should also push closer and closer to the NAR as (a) the effects of cash drag decrease through automated investing and (b) the $20,000 deposit cash drag effect is diluted over time. This is precisely where I expected to be given my backtesting. You can see the backtesting in Peter's article (look where the curve meets the imaginary vertical line at the Top 10% policy). http://www.lendacademy.com/p2p-picks-hedge-fund-style-p2p-investing/

My active portfolio has 959 Issued and Current notes, 4 Late 16-30s, and 12 Late 31-120s, and 0 In Default. There are also 101 Fully Paid loans and 25 Charged Off loans that are no longer part of the active portfolio. I feel this is a solid distressed note performance given the portfolio size.




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Rob L

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Re: Personal Portfolio Returns
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2013, 02:34:17 AM »
Thanks for the info. Very impressive performance. It does beg the question of the precise definition of the Bryce Mason buy and hold strategy. All are PMAX, so how many were Top 1's, 5's and 10's? Were all notes the same size, or did you vary note size by Top (if you used varied Tops)?

Finally, if I read correctly, your portfolio was auto-invested beginning at some point in time. If so, do you have a way to measure the improvement in the quality and availability of loans purchased, if any, due to this perceived advantage over slower manual browser based purchasing? If you do, what did you find? If not would you care to speculate? As you know, and for the record, I personally do not think auto-invest is currently significant so long as LC continues to release at pre-announced times. Otherwise it is obviously mandatory.

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Rob

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Re: Personal Portfolio Returns
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2013, 02:42:48 AM »
Hi Rob, thanks for your attention and feedback, as always.

Everything was $50 per note. I just ran down the list from the top loan to the bottom (until cash available was exhausted). Sometimes I'd reject a loan for personal reasons, but not too often even in the beginning and certain more rarely today. I'd say this is a good reflection of the Top 10% strategy (buying a good mix of 1%, 5%, and 10%). These days I only infrequently make it out of the Top 5% because I'm only buying 4-5 notes at a time, so maybe a few years from now my portfolio will look more like a Top 5%. There were some weeks in July-August 2012 where I bought 120+ notes at a time. There was huge--HUGE availability while LC was helping a major fund ramp up.

Auto-invest has not yet been turned on. I've always done it manually. But, it's coming! Frankly, I do not expect the performance to differ once it's turned on. Nobody has been able to tell me a factor yet that creates any evidence of differential performance across picks within the product. I used to look at every loan I bought. These days I just "Go" and "Place Order." The lust is gone and it's just another chore. If I don't just trust the model, why bother at all?


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Re: Personal Portfolio Returns
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2013, 11:17:21 AM »
Hi Bryce,

Thanks for the clarifications. Glad to know your portfolio contains notes  from all the PMAX Top rankings. I think that's an important point, and a question  that surely would have been asked by others had I not.  I'm surprised you" looked" at any of the loans early on since that was contrary to the fundamental premise of your work. However, I suppose there was a period of reasonableness cross checking just to be sure nothing screwy was going on, and hey real money was involved.

My reinvestment strategy is looking like yours. I'm going wiith PMAX 1% and 5% only but waffling between a constant $50 per note, or $75, $50. Since I have more than 300 of each now I can view them as a separate investments with sufficient diversification within themselves. I think I remember 400 notes to be the point at which further diversification doesn't mean much.

I see we agree about auto-invest and its lack of any meaningful difference (other than convenience) in the past and for now. If continuous release is in LC's future though it's a game changer, but for my investments over the past month I'm confident I haven't missed a thing.

So, the building of the machine was more fun than turning the crank. Makes sense, but the sausage is tasty.

Cheers!
Rob

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Re: Personal Portfolio Returns
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2013, 02:23:14 PM »
Hi Bruce,
Thanks for sharing your data.  It's good long term data.  However, how do you see going forward when so many investors competing so few quality loan.   At 10:05am PT today, your max. profit model only had 1 top 10% note available.   By 10:09 am, there is none.  I assume all those top ones are taken.   So investors will have to take lower and lower quality loans and lower and lower returns.   Don't you have to readjust your model and lower return rates?

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2013, 02:30:03 PM »
10 a.m. this morning was filled exceptionally quickly. Between the 6 a.m. and 10 a.m. loads, however, I was able to purchase 7 loans today. I don't have any expectations for change due to loan availability.

Auto-invest will help alleviate this, too, when it's implemented.

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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2013, 03:11:11 PM »
Auto-invest will help alleviate this, too, when it's implemented.

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Re: Personal Portfolio Returns
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2013, 05:01:55 PM »
Bryce, have you ever compared how the BCDEF notes picked by LM compare with the Top 1, 5, 10 on PM?

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 10:27:40 AM »
Maybe I'm getting slow on the trigger, but it was really difficult to buy PMAX loans yesterday, and even the 6am upload this morning was blitzed. I wonder if this is a brief abnormality or a paradigm shift. I've never seen such heavy buying at the top of the morning; 147 new loans listed, 0 fully funded in the first two minutes, 16 in the first 3(actually first 2 minutes and 5 seconds), still 16 in the first 4 and finally 19 in the first 5 minutes. All but 2 were 36 month loans.

Probably should have posted this in the unashamed griping thread.
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Re: Personal Portfolio Returns
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2013, 09:55:02 PM »
August 2013 Update

Balances
Account: $39,996.50
Impairments*: $981.00 (2.5% of Balance)

Transfers
Deposits: None
Withdrawals: None

Active Portfolio Description
Loans: 1007
Average Age (unweighted): 310 days
Average Age (weighted by principal remaining): 290 days

Returns
LendingClub Net Annualized Return: 12.1%
Excel XIRR (inc. cash drag): 11.3%

Strategy
  • Buy and hold LendingClub securities - no secondary market activity
  • Idle cash invested using all available P2P-Picks notes, from Top 1% to Top 10%

* - Impaired loans are all Late and In Default loans.

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Re: Personal Portfolio Returns
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2013, 04:53:05 AM »
Is that only PMAX notes?

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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2013, 08:49:57 AM »
Yes, per the original post.

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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2013, 09:49:53 AM »
Thanks for the update. We should all hope to do so well! Are you surprised at your "Fully Paid" amount or has it been as expected? So far I've had 13 of my 1700+ loans paid in full in their first month, and only 3 that are 15-30 late. That "Fully Paid" number seems odd to me but I have no data to back it up. Those borrowers are getting killed by origination fees.

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2013, 01:10:56 PM »
Yes, per the original post.
do you track the frequency of different grades?  Like how many 1s, 5s, 10s, you have?

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Re: Personal Portfolio Returns
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2013, 01:04:58 AM »
August 2013 Update

Account: $39,996.50
LendingClub Net Annualized Return: 12.1%
Excel XIRR (inc. cash drag): 11.3%

Congrats!  Your NAR/XIRR are better than those of many hedge funds:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-11/complete-2013-year-date-hedge-fund-performance

Now, if only we could increase our AUM to be in 7-digit dollars, we can retire soon.  ;)