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Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« on: September 10, 2014, 03:04:05 PM »
Do you see much smaller volume of loans using P2P-pick filter on BV? My volume of invested loans went down significantly.

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 03:07:02 PM »
Do you see much smaller volume of loans using P2P-pick filter on BV? My volume of invested loans went down significantly.

Yes. The last week or two have been in the 10-20s average rather than the hundreds. Bryce from P2P-Picks can address why this has been happening.

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2014, 04:48:34 PM »
I've experienced the same sharp reduction in P2P-Picks through BV in the last 1-2 weeks.
Am interested to learn whether this will be resolved in the near future or is this the new normal.

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2014, 05:20:11 PM »
Yeah I was coming here to check for this.  I usually have less than $25 kicking around in available cash and now I have almost $400.  I might have to go looking around on Folio soon.

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2014, 10:57:37 AM »
The only change I made recently was to use the API vs. the CSV, at which time I also learned to pull only the _new_ loans. Are you sure you weren't just investing twice or even three times in the same repeated picks? Over the weekend I could check to see how the volume of picks has changed across the last few weeks.

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2014, 02:17:10 PM »
The only change I made recently was to use the API vs. the CSV, at which time I also learned to pull only the _new_ loans. Are you sure you weren't just investing twice or even three times in the same repeated picks? Over the weekend I could check to see how the volume of picks has changed across the last few weeks.
My pick volume is down too.  And I haven't had repeated picks -- but I'd prefer low volume instead of accumulating the best of trash -- I assumed they were running one of their bankruptcy specials or something lol

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2014, 03:15:12 PM »
Another possibility is that by the time the picks are making it to BV, they are spoken for. I've noticed that a large number of picks are already 30-80% invested by the time the API is even downloading the data. This is the more likely culprit. See my Loan Information Asymmetrical Timing thread for more details.

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2014, 03:50:15 PM »
Another possibility is that by the time the picks are making it to BV, they are spoken for.
I suspect this is the case.  :(

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2014, 06:08:43 PM »
I get my cart of picks before they are on the 3rd party server I use, which doesn't ever get some of the same ones I do. 
Fast getting doesn't help.  Still routinely taking 0 out of 5-9.  Quality is not there.  Whomever is speaking for the early ones is welcome to them!

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2014, 02:10:43 AM »
Spent an hour tonight double checking my work with the conversion from the CSV to SOAP API as source for loan data. Scoring was identical between the two sources so I know it's nothing on my end. The quality isn't there or we're simply getting beat by the manual (or scraping) buyers, probably a little of both. I certainly see occasions in my logs where I put in the order (meaning the API saw the loan) and missed out.

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2014, 10:13:33 AM »
Spent an hour tonight double checking my work with the conversion from the CSV to SOAP API as source for loan data. Scoring was identical between the two sources so I know it's nothing on my end. The quality isn't there or we're simply getting beat by the manual (or scraping) buyers, probably a little of both. I certainly see occasions in my logs where I put in the order (meaning the API saw the loan) and missed out.

Thank for your time and checking into this.  I am getting some more in the past couple days that I recall last week.  Not the higher quality 5% or 10% tho as much (especially for ProfMax).  I'm using both ProfMax and LossMin now.  Yesterday example:

Tools I use: (main) BlueVestment: https://www.bluevestment.com/app/pricing + https://www.interestradar.com/ , (others) Lending Robot referral link: https://www.lendingrobot.com/ref/scott473/  & Peercube referral code: DFVA9Y

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2014, 10:14:15 AM »
Thanks for checking Bryce.  Sounds like it's as we figured.  I'll channel my inner Core here and surmise that this delay teamed up with the new API 3rd party requirements is designed to drive people towards their Prime service and away from external picking solutions.  They are making it difficult on purpose!

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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2014, 10:16:38 AM »
Thanks for checking Bryce.  Sounds like it's as we figured.  I'll channel my inner Core here and surmise that this delay teamed up with the new API 3rd party requirements is designed to drive people towards their Prime service and away from external picking solutions.  They are making it difficult on purpose!
I turned that on for a week and got nothing. Not usable.  I think when using it they want you to take anything and not set any criteria <grin/frown>.
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Re: Much smaller volume through P2P-picks filter on BV recently
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2014, 11:38:35 AM »
I actually made my first withdrawal of LendingClub for 5+ years this week due to the loan volume.  Figured I should move some of the cash to my equity portfolio to deploy it in a new fund I went long. 

I've been getting mostly LM notes with rates above 11 (I think, forgot my rule now).  Haven't gotten many PMax, but I only do 5%